Basic Motion

[Daryl]

However the hinge action can still be horizontal with the toe of the club pointing along the plane line, angled about 45 degrees across the plane line, or vertical about 90 degrees across the plane line with the clubface looking at the sky and alway with a flat left wrist vertical to it's associated plane as stated in paragraph 2 on page 28.

Hinge action by definition is holding the flat left wrist vertical to one of the three basic planes and it can be varied in basic motion to achieve a desired result.

a'hem. Hinge Action requires a #3 Accumulator Angle. If you Zero out the #3 Accumulator, then you're merely spinning the Clubface around the Longitudinal Center of Gravity of the Club. You can practice this, and learn something, but technically it's not "Hinge Action". Technically, it's not a Swivel either. It's like turning a key in a lock.

[EdZ]

a'hem. Hinge Action requires a #3 Accumulator Angle. If you Zero out the #3 Accumulator, then you're merely spinning the Clubface around the Longitudinal Center of Gravity of the Club. You can practice this, and learn something, but technically it's not "Hinge Action". Technically, it's not a Swivel either. It's like turning a key in a lock.

Hinge action does not require #3.

If you zero #3, all hinge action effectively becomes angled hinge action in rhythm, but you can certainly do all three hinges with zero #3.

[Daryl]

Hinge action does not require #3.

If you zero #3, all hinge action effectively becomes angled hinge action in rhythm, but you can certainly do all three hinges with zero #3.

Dear Comrade EdZ,

You made duplicate "Hinge Motion" by zeroing #3 but you cannot duplicate "Hinge Action" using this procedure.

7-10 All these types can also be duplicated (exactly) with Wrist only, Arms only or Body only manipulations using Minor Basic Strokes. But all must produce Rhythm per 2-G. Use the “Turn” Feel to determine the “Roll” Feel. Per special purposes a selected Impact Hinge Action might also be applied to the entire Stroke (becoming Stroke Pattern Component #18 also). Or initiated at ANY point prior to Impact. With either procedure, precision is unattainable without – among other requirements – correct Rhythm in both directions. Experimentation with all three Rhythms per 2-G is about the best drill for understanding the results of excessive or inadequate Turn and/or Roll of the Hands during the Stroke in order to avoid doing either unintentionally.

If you Zero out #3 Accumulator by placing the grip of the club in the lifeline of the left hand, then all clubhead travel is the same as "Angled Hinging". Where, by gosh, is the difference in Rhythm?

It may look like a duck, walk like a Duck and quack like a duck. But it might only be "Daffy Duck".

2-G. Doing the above drill with Zero Accumulator #3 (6-B-3-B) will show that then, all Lag Loading and Hinge Action have Angled Hinging Travel AND Rhythm.

Oh? I forgot. What is the Title to 2-G? Could someone look that up? I don't have my book in front of me at the moment. Oh wait, I remember...."Hinge Motion"

[GPStyles]

This has resolved me to do a lot of basic motion work during the rest of the winter.

1) Is it more important to work on the 2 feet back, 2 feet through or should there also be a target?

2) Is it advisable to use the Taly when practicing the basic motion?

3) As before, is there any club more preferred to work with?

4) Amazingly the limited practice facilities at my club do include any area big enough to work on basic motion. Is it a case of getting a big pile of balls and working away for 30 minutes or so or is a more structured from more appropraite?

Thanks in advance.

[bray]

Daryl,

We may be beating Daffy Duck to Deaf or Death, but where in the book does it say Hinge Action requires #3?

10-10-0 is titled Hinge Actions (Hinging)
In all the pictures associated with Hinging/Hinge Actions
the Hinge is mounted on the left shoulder, not the left wrist.

These are the three motions we are talking about
Horizontal, Angled, Vertical
regardless of maximum #3 or zero #3.

Sorting Through the Golf Nut's Catalog.

B-Ray

[Daryl]

We may be beating Daffy Duck to Deaf or Death, but where in the book does it say Hinge Action requires #3?

There's not much more I can add to be more clear. I bolded parts.

2-G. The Physics of Hinging is, that, Hitting or Swinging, “Roll” is actually imparted by the turning torso and/or the orbiting Arms per 2-K#4 and 2-K#5 as described in 10-18. Practice these motions first with open Hands cause of the Flat Left Wrist, must always travel at the same RPM as the Arms and reproduce the Hinging inherent in the selected Lag Loading procedure (10-19) per 4-D, 9-2 and 9-3, regardless of Clubhead Extension velocity. See 2-P and 7-18.

...........The KEY to this Rhythm is the #3 Accumulator (6-B-3-0). As part of the above drill, hold the 45 degree Arm position while rotating the Hands and the #3 Accumulator through the three Hinging positions, over and over until you see that each position changes the LOCATION of the Clubhead. The Point to note here is that with each Hinge Action the #3 Accumulator has a different “In Line” motion – Dual Horizontal Hinging having the longest travel and Dual Vertical the shortest. This agrees with the “Roll Characteristics” discussed in 7-10 and must be so executed to produce proper Rhythm. Doing the above drill with Zero Accumulator #3 (6-B-3-B) will show that then, all Lag Loading and Hinge Action have Angled Hinging Travel AND Rhythm. So – intentional use of Zero Accumulator #3 can be useful while unintentional use can be hazardous.

[BerntR]

Great thread,

Yoda descibed my stroke with the hands too low as a "sea of compensation" Feels really weird with the on-plane right forearm at fix. But also extremely solid through the ball. So now I am practicing basic motion in the garden. A little turf, a club and three balls is all that's needed.

Question:

What are the quality criteria as far as ball striking goes in basic motion?

I try to approach this as I would approach the short game. Solid ball contact, trajectory & distance control. With proper stroke execution. Just want to know if I have the right focus here. Maybe I should just pay attention to alignments an disregard the result?

[bray]

There's not much more I can add to be more clear. I bolded parts.

Daryl,

Reading it as Homer wrote "your bolding" in post 32 it just further proves my point.

With zero #3 in basic motion one can employ any of the three hinge actions the clubhead will always finish in the same spot at follow through (both arms straight approx. two feet through) because of zero #3, but the face can be laying back (vertical hinge), closed (horizontal hinge), or closed and laying back (angled hinge). These follow throughs reflect the clubfaces motion through impact and seperation. As edz pointed out the essence of Chapter 2.

Now Zero #3 can make the plane steeper which could make a Vertical Hinge easier to achieve than a Horizontal, but still all three can be achieved.

I know this because my machine can produce these shots, and I've taught it and seen it taught by many of the finest Golfing Machine Teachers in the Land!

Sorting Through the Circuit Player's Handbook and Instructor's Textbook.

B-Ray

[GPStyles]

This has resolved me to do a lot of basic motion work during the rest of the winter.

1) Is it more important to work on the 2 feet back, 2 feet through or should there also be a target?

2) Is it advisable to use the Taly when practicing the basic motion?

3) As before, is there any club more preferred to work with?

4) Amazingly the limited practice facilities at my club do include any area big enough to work on basic motion. Is it a case of getting a big pile of balls and working away for 30 minutes or so or is a more structured from more appropraite?

Thanks in advance.

[KevCarter]

This has resolved me to do a lot of basic motion work during the rest of the winter.

1) Is it more important to work on the 2 feet back, 2 feet through or should there also be a target?

2) Is it advisable to use the Taly when practicing the basic motion?

3) As before, is there any club more preferred to work with?

4) Amazingly the limited practice facilities at my club do include any area big enough to work on basic motion. Is it a case of getting a big pile of balls and working away for 30 minutes or so or is a more structured from more appropraite?

Thanks in advance.

In my opinion.

1) Good to have a target. You can do wonders for your short game while working on your impact alignments.

2) I like to start with the Taly to make sure I am using the proper alignments, then recheck as needed.

3) I like to use my sand wedge, but it's your choice. Just make sure it is never so flat a loft that you feel you have to help it in the air to fly onto the target you have chosen.

4) In that case I would do a combination of just working structure on the range, along with going out on the course with 3 or 4 balls as traffic allows.

Kevin