thoughts....decided on a pattern

[whip]

the success of every shot is dependent on the physics and geometry applied to it, rasheed wallace has a more karmic perspective, nonetheless his words are wise....lol

[BerntR]

Whip,

The face on video has has better flow. But the dtl video is pretty good too.

I like Hogan's and Snead's lower body work better than yours. They look more dynamic and more connected and more powerful. But the stuff that goes on above the waistline looks as good in your swing as anything to me. And you look at least as well balanced as the two greats. Impressive. And it seems like your foot work and hip action is due to a deliberate preference. To be honest it's a bit like hearing a hit for the first time. It takes some time to get used to it.

Would you mind sharing your priorities on your priorities re hip action and lower body?

I hope a lot of those who bash TGM get to watch your swing. It is a great show case for TGM. Doesn't have the stall and the flip that TGM is often accused of - and has a beautiful FLW with a huge error margin through the ball. Great stuff!

[whip]

thank you very much for your comments especially the one about the showcase for tgm. Hogan and Snead were the greatest, i would be ecstatic to come anywhere close. My swing is still in process of refinement and therefore the look and sound of the swing may change on a given day or even on a given swing as components and their relationships are tweaked and refined. I claim no perfections, all components and there total rhythm still require vast improvement. Homer didn't define the perfect swing, he laid out possibilities in the trillions yet all must have the imperatives and essentials to have any real competitive potential with few exceptions. personal and psychological preferences must be accounted for and every golfer will excel and resist any certain part of the process or another, everyone is different. I have found you cannot just jump ahead, you have to reach a certain level of conceptual understanding and execution and drill it in a bit, then you take that current level and throw some more crash and relative translation to all components and get to that NEXT level and then once again refine those components and so on and so on to the level of refinement proportionate to your ambitions. Thanks to Homer's work, this is a truly unlimited and unparalleled refinement process.


RE lower body-

trying to make sure i get some nice shoulder lag, bump then twist and not vis versa and the right amount and at the right time and with proper axis tilt, it's possible for me to bump the hip without actuating the right shoulder downward so I want to make sure that's synced up properly and working together right as well as zone 2 components synced up with axis tilt the way i want them, etc etc. i seem to have much more control over the hips now so it probably looks a lot different, those are fairly old swings but that lower body action is pretty good, could it be better oh ya it could drastically change from that but it has also come along way, inches are miles in the golf swing.

[whip]

[whip]

longitudinal acceleration, rope swinging is the essence, right forearm motion precisely to top, balance, extensor, passivity...

[BerntR]

I agree. I try to engage my Left Shoulder as much as possible from transition to low point.

[whip]

not sure what you mean by engaging the left shoulder. shoulder control is only via the right shoulder

[BerntR]

High force running up the left arm all the way.

Can't do it at all costs since the left shoulder is above the swing plane.

Yes, the right shoulder has important on-plane functions as described in the book.

But the left shoulder has important power functions - if you let it. OB Left just posted and old Yoda post about it:



This is pretty close to how I aim to use the shoulders through impact. Especially the last paragraph. I try to maximize the drag from the left shoulder through the ball because I've experienced that this provides the best lag pressure and the greatest resistance against decel as ch meets the ball, or even when there is heavy grass before the ball.

The heavier the club feels in my left hand through the ball, the more drag I manage to provide from the left shoulder, the better I seem to hit the ball. So this is high on my list of things to monitor. When I'm producing my best golf it feels very continuous from transition and past impact.

The only exception from how Yoda describes it is that I don't try to keep or drive the left shoulder straight through the ball. I shift down to elbow plane, and use the Right Shoulder and Right Arm and Right Hand to negotiate the offset between the shoulder turn and the sweet spot plane through impact.

[whip]

i never read anything in the book about engaging the left shoulder "high force running up the left shoulder" sounds like an injury waiting to happen

[BerntR]

Far from an injury. Centripetal force plus linear force it is.