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Old 03-09-2012, 05:05 PM
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after studying the book, taking the ai classes, teaching, posting on this forum, constructing an inclined plane, and taking lessons from a master authorized instructor for three years, everything seems very clear and simple now, when I look at the tips and tricks and ideas from other sources they all seem so ridiculous, as I understand the machine now, it couldn't make more sense. Now it's simply a matter of look, look, look, repeat, repeat, repeat, win, win, win
What do you find most important in your understanding - besides the imperatives and essentials?
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Old 03-09-2012, 05:32 PM
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What do you find most important in your understanding - besides the imperatives and essentials?
Probably the axis tilt, the hinge actions and they're corresponding impact fix adjustments

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Old 03-09-2012, 05:45 PM
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Probably the axis tilt, the hinge actions and they're corresponding impact fix adjustments
You have my permission to explain this a little more if you want to...
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Old 03-09-2012, 05:59 PM
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Well those were just the two things that were big eye openers, prior to that I thought you wanted the clubface square at impact and I thought you simply just turned and turned back. So when I realized that the face had to be slightly open for horizontal hinge at impact to allow for closing it was a big aha moment. The axis tilt explained how the thrust could be delivered down the plane. Those two simple things explained a lot for me, very simple things.
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Old 03-09-2012, 06:10 PM
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Well those were just the two things that were big eye openers, prior to that I thought you wanted the clubface square at impact and I thought you simply just turned and turned back. So when I realized that the face had to be slightly open for horizontal hinge at impact to allow for closing it was a big aha moment. The axis tilt explained how the thrust could be delivered down the plane. Those two simple things explained a lot for me, very simple things.
It's always nice when things seem (and are) simple. I'm not there yet, but it's interesting to read about your progress and understanding of the book. Keep it coming.
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Old 03-10-2012, 12:57 AM
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Although it all makes sense, the application doesn't come easy, some days I think I've got it and other days I wanna break every club In the bag.

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Old 03-10-2012, 11:44 PM
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the bunker
today greg fixed my bunker game. I was making too many adjustments for the sand and was loaded with tension. I was forcibly swinging my arms and bending the left arm trying to vertical hinge instead of letting the pivot pull the arms through. I started using the pivot and feeling like i was hitting a normal 70 yd pitch shot but with an open face regripped strong single action. He got me to let the weight of the clubhead splash the sand, soft arms letting the weight fall like ernest jones' penknife. he had me getting into the follow through more, getting off the right foot instead of flat footed bending the wrists and arms. I was too open and pulling even more left in the follow through, Instead he got me to angled hinge on plane with a slightly open open plane line. Immediately I was hitting High soft beautiful bunker shots all right around the hole which i couldn't see until I got out because of the high lip.
This makes me a very happy golfer. We even tackled the hardpan bunker shot that you get from bunkers that don't have enough sand in them which are too common around here.

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Ernest Jones was a great Golf Instructor. No question.

And his idea to "Swing the Clubhead" and let Centrifugal Force do all the work is simple and intuitively appealing. Under the watchful eye of a competent Instructor, that approach can yield spectacular results. In fact, Homer Kelley himself embraced the correct application of the concept in Chapter Five with his admonition to "Swing the Hands."

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Old 03-11-2012, 11:34 PM
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Intentional Throwaway which exposes the bounce like Luke Donald sometimes does in the sand is to my mind a swinging of the club head past the hands. Swinging the club head intentionally in other words as opposed to the hands. But that said , you can expose the bounce by opening the face and just swing the hands normally. You got options. But ideally you can do both.

This business, variance in release points , Hinge Action and changes in Wrist firmness are all critical variables in short shot mastery to my mind. Wrist firmness I gotta highlight . It goes untalked about but it can be prescribed to great effect when putting, chipping etc and then loosened accordingly Its maybe a factor, component that Homer missed outlining but he did allude to it. Re the Bat and Right arm swinging with loosened wrists. Designed in changes in wrist firmness is there, believe me its there. And it can and should be planned for , prescribed for the shot at hand. Runyan's "stiff wristed chipping" or putting for example does give way to other looser wristed shots. Flop shots etc. You gotta play with wrist firmness .. got to. You loosen as you move more towards True Swinging procedures. Freddy or Bobby Jones type stuff.

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Old 03-12-2012, 12:28 PM
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maybe out of very soft fluffy sand, intentional throwaway could be useful but for me bending the left wrist in the sandtrap is death.
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:29 PM
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Whip I didn't realize that you are an instructor and an A.I. too. Awesome.
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