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Old 02-25-2007, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ndwolfe81 View Post
If someone comes to you and has never heard about TGM, how deep would you take them in your first lesson?

Do you teach everyone speaking about TGM and using the terms after a full explanation?
If someone knows TGM, it makes the lesson flow, and it goes go very quickly. But, most of my lessons have zero exposure to TGM. They just want to hit the ball better. They could care less about all the variations or the terminology. So, I'll use the concepts, but I'll refrain from using words that they don't understand.
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Old 02-25-2007, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke View Post
If someone knows TGM, it makes the lesson flow, and it goes go very quickly. But, most of my lessons have zero exposure to TGM. They just want to hit the ball better. They could care less about all the variations or the terminology. So, I'll use the concepts, but I'll refrain from using words that they don't understand.

Thank you so much for sharing a little bit about how you go about teaching. It is so nice to see such a great instructor helping out. This may lead to better teaching from me as I continue.

I am going to be heading back down to the swamp either later in the spring or early summer. I sure hope to meet you this next trip.
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Old 02-26-2007, 03:54 AM
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Thought I would share my struggles in golf with you guys and see what you thought.

Basically, I struggle with this myself. I live hours from my golf pro and can only get down to see him every 3-4 months. I struggled for a long while with my practice, not really understanding the concept of discipline. I had to work out some way so that I could see the transition from basic to acquired motion. To be disciplined I came up with this system I only take 5 balls with me.

Basically,
1 shortest basic motion
2 longer basic motion
3 1/4 swing acquired motion

I have to hit 2 perfect shots from each of the chip shots... all 4 chips have to be perfect before I allow myself to attempt the acquired motion. If I screw a chip up I miss out on getting to hit the acquired motion.

I like this because I can see the progression from that basic motion and its alignments to the acquired motion. When I go to a range I do the same thing but put balls in groups of 7's and hit 2 perfect acquired motions before trying a full shot.

I have come to view basic and acquired motion as productive practice and wailing balls in my net as just exercise.

Its the only way I could discipline myself to persist with the basic motion because I could see the connectedness.

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Old 02-26-2007, 09:04 AM
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Thought I would share my struggles in golf with you guys and see what you thought.

Basically, I struggle with this myself. I live hours from my golf pro and can only get down to see him every 3-4 months. I struggled for a long while with my practice, not really understanding the concept of discipline. I had to work out some way so that I could see the transition from basic to acquired motion. To be disciplined I came up with this system I only take 5 balls with me.

Basically,
1 shortest basic motion
2 longer basic motion
3 1/4 swing acquired motion

I have to hit 2 perfect shots from each of the chip shots... all 4 chips have to be perfect before I allow myself to attempt the acquired motion. If I screw a chip up I miss out on getting to hit the acquired motion.

I like this because I can see the progression from that basic motion and its alignments to the acquired motion. When I go to a range I do the same thing but put balls in groups of 7's and hit 2 perfect acquired motions before trying a full shot.

I have come to view basic and acquired motion as productive practice and wailing balls in my net as just exercise.

Its the only way I could discipline myself to persist with the basic motion

because I could see the connectedness.
If this is how you work on your game, well then you should be seeing some big time improvements. I would continue with type of practice for along time, hmm like the rest of your life.
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Old 02-27-2007, 04:35 AM
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If this is how you work on your game, well then you should be seeing some big time improvements. I would continue with type of practice for along time, hmm like the rest of your life.
My irons have improved out of sight. Unfortunately, I suck with a driver. I am not sure if its cause I have no place to practice with one or if I swing differently with one. I was hoping things would filter down to the driver, but not as of yet.
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Old 02-27-2007, 09:27 AM
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My irons have improved out of sight. Unfortunately, I suck with a driver. I am not sure if its cause I have no place to practice with one or if I swing differently with one. I was hoping things would filter down to the driver, but not as of yet.
How long have you been going through the above practice routine? What is your handicap? What are the vital statistics of you driver? How far and high do you hit your 3 iron?
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The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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Old 02-27-2007, 09:34 PM
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How long have you been going through the above practice routine? What is your handicap? What are the vital statistics of you driver? How far and high do you hit your 3 iron?
With variations - 6 months. I have not been using a 3iron. From 150m (not yards) I would pull a 6 iron and carry it that far.

No handicap ATM. I only get to play 9 about once every 2 weeks, but I play consistant bogey golf now. A huge drop. A year ago I could not break 100. Bogey golf is not too bad when you do not get off the T well. Yesterday I played 9 - 3 bogeys, 3 doubles, and 3 pars. Only hit 2 fairways with my driver, so after taking my medicine, the bogeys were not too bad. At least I can chip!

Oh, Cobra SS427, 10.5 loft, Reg flex.

Been thinking of doing some basic motion with my driver to improve my hand action (into a net), but the ground around here is all dry and I don't want to ruin my driver.

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Old 02-26-2007, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ndwolfe81 View Post
Thank you so much for sharing a little bit about how you go about teaching. It is so nice to see such a great instructor helping out. This may lead to better teaching from me as I continue.

I am going to be heading back down to the swamp either later in the spring or early summer. I sure hope to meet you this next trip.
I'll have to let you know when I'm coming to Nashville. My best friend lives there and is a member at the Legends in Franklin.
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:44 PM
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I'll have to let you know when I'm coming to Nashville. My best friend lives there and is a member at the Legends in Franklin.
Hey, Nashville sounds good to me. I'd like to join the party. Let me know when and where.
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Old 02-28-2007, 11:40 PM
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Hey, Nashville sounds good to me. I'd like to join the party. Let me know when and where.
I'm not sure when it will be, with the second little boy due on April 28th. But, I'll let you know.

I still remember the "on-plane" change you made in Marietta. It's a great avatar.
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