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Old 04-18-2007, 09:40 AM
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The Left Wrist Uncocks only to the Level position (where you still have #3 Accumulator) during Release. If you reach fully Uncocked before Impact, watch out for that Horizontal Left Wrist Bend, because that is what is going to happen at Impact. I see it over and over again; Over-Loading, Over Accelerating, Steering .

Differentiating between Uncock and Roll (study 2-P, 4-D-O, re-read them now) goes back to Educating the Hands thru the Pressure Points and practicing the Drill Mr. Kelley put at the end of 4-D-0; both done on the same Delivery Line, driving the ball into the ground, not toward the green. Do it first without a club, then with dowels, then with a club, with eyes open (look, look, look,) then with eyes shut. Over, and Over, and Over; Alignments, Pressure Points, Rhythm, Pace, Acceleration. Let the Mechanics produce the action, the Feel reproduce.

BTW, the Right Wrist is never Cocked and never Thrown.
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Old 04-18-2007, 04:26 PM
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The Left Wrist Uncocks only to the Level position (where you still have #3 Accumulator) during Release. If you reach fully Uncocked before Impact, watch out for that Horizontal Left Wrist Bend, because that is what is going to happen at Impact. I see it over and over again; Over-Loading, Over Accelerating, Steering .

Differentiating between Uncock and Roll (study 2-P, 4-D-O, re-read them now) goes back to Educating the Hands thru the Pressure Points and practicing the Drill Mr. Kelley put at the end of 4-D-0; both done on the same Delivery Line, driving the ball into the ground, not toward the green. Do it first without a club, then with dowels, then with a club, with eyes open (look, look, look,) then with eyes shut. Over, and Over, and Over; Alignments, Pressure Points, Rhythm, Pace, Acceleration. Let the Mechanics produce the action, the Feel reproduce.

BTW, the Right Wrist is never Cocked and never Thrown.

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Old 04-18-2007, 04:51 PM
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The Left Wrist Uncocks only to the Level position (where you still have #3 Accumulator) during Release. If you reach fully Uncocked before Impact, watch out for that Horizontal Left Wrist Bend, because that is what is going to happen at Impact. I see it over and over again; Over-Loading, Over Accelerating, Steering .

Differentiating between Uncock and Roll (study 2-P, 4-D-O, re-read them now) goes back to Educating the Hands thru the Pressure Points and practicing the Drill Mr. Kelley put at the end of 4-D-0; both done on the same Delivery Line, driving the ball into the ground, not toward the green. Do it first without a club, then with dowels, then with a club, with eyes open (look, look, look,) then with eyes shut. Over, and Over, and Over; Alignments, Pressure Points, Rhythm, Pace, Acceleration. Let the Mechanics produce the action, the Feel reproduce.

BTW, the Right Wrist is never Cocked and never Thrown.
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by drewitgolf View Post
The Left Wrist Uncocks only to the Level position (where you still have #3 Accumulator) during Release. If you reach fully Uncocked before Impact, watch out for that Horizontal Left Wrist Bend, because that is what is going to happen at Impact. I see it over and over again; Over-Loading, Over Accelerating, Steering .

Differentiating between Uncock and Roll (study 2-P, 4-D-O, re-read them now) goes back to Educating the Hands thru the Pressure Points and practicing the Drill Mr. Kelley put at the end of 4-D-0; both done on the same Delivery Line, driving the ball into the ground, not toward the green. Do it first without a club, then with dowels, then with a club, with eyes open (look, look, look,) then with eyes shut. Over, and Over, and Over; Alignments, Pressure Points, Rhythm, Pace, Acceleration. Let the Mechanics produce the action, the Feel reproduce.

BTW, the Right Wrist is never Cocked and never Thrown.
Great post!

So, what is in your opinion the cause for overacceleration?
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:11 PM
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Great post!

So, what is in your opinion the cause for overacceleration?
You just wait for what old Norrin Rad Silver Surfer comes up with on this one . . .

Drew Chapman speaks PAY ATTENTION . . . one of the best Machinists to crack a Yellow Book is never to be taken lightly.

Not drewitgolf . . . but I'll take a stab.

1. Misunderstanding of the amount of Loading required to generate a sustainable amount of Lag Pressure.

2. Steering

3. No patience at Top

4. Downstroke Blackout

5. Mind on clubhead not on Hands

6. Attempt to add acceleration rather than allowing CF to travel at the speed it demands
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:36 PM
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You just wait for what old Norrin Rad Silver Surfer comes up with on this one . . .

Drew Chapman speaks PAY ATTENTION . . . one of the best Machinists to crack a Yellow Book is never to be taken lightly.

Not drewitgolf . . . but I'll take a stab.

1. Misunderstanding of the amount of Loading required to generate a sustainable amount of Lag Pressure.

2. Steering

3. No patience at Top

4. Downstroke Blackout

5. Mind on clubhead not on Hands

6. Attempt to add acceleration rather than allowing CF to travel at the speed it demands
Yes my bucket full of chicken ... all good points.. but how bout for good players or maybe what do good players do to avoid over acceleration? like they will let certain things happen etc.
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Yes my bucket full of chicken ... all good points.. but how bout for good players or maybe what do good players do to avoid over acceleration? like they will let certain things happen etc.

Experiment with the amount of loading you place on your pressure points. Load max then back off and see what amount you can sustain . . . It surprised me anyway what amount of loading produced the most CONSISTENT results with regards to compression and direction.

Monkey with it . . . I found less was more . . . but may not be that way for you.
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:09 PM
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for me.. swinging .... light pressure and tight lag is the best word i can describe. but would love to hear more
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Old 04-19-2007, 06:02 AM
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Experiment with the amount of loading you place on your pressure points. Load max then back off and see what amount you can sustain . . . It surprised me anyway what amount of loading produced the most CONSISTENT results with regards to compression and direction.

Monkey with it . . . I found less was more . . . but may not be that way for you.
Thats the thing bucket, in TMG we are constantly told HEAVY is good, that theres a tendancy to strive for too much heavyness that you just can't get it to impact. It's like everything in life it's only good for you in moderation.

Also i think the quick start down for swingers can be misleading, For me anyway when i'm playing well my transition seems to take for ever, my hands feel like their hanging in the air. It requires patience and discipline. I think Fred Couples used to call it 'letting the air out', I like that.
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Old 04-19-2007, 05:54 PM
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Thats the thing bucket, in TMG we are constantly told HEAVY is good, that theres a tendancy to strive for too much heavyness that you just can't get it to impact. It's like everything in life it's only good for you in moderation.

Also i think the quick start down for swingers can be misleading, For me anyway when i'm playing well my transition seems to take for ever, my hands feel like their hanging in the air. It requires patience and discipline. I think Fred Couples used to call it 'letting the air out', I like that.

A truly 'swung' set of educted hands can, in my view, feel both heavy, and light during the motion, especially with higher amounts of float loading.

As soon as you are 'loaded', you should feel heavy all the way to both arms straight, at the very least, in the pressure points - ultimately, feeling impact through the entire chain from feet to pressure point #3.

Begin learning the feels of each pressure point with a putter, left hand only, right hand only, both.
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