Good point OB,that is actually a real problem for me,boxing I was always weight to toe,where as golf probably leans to heels more so...I guess
I can see that, a boxers weight towards the toes like a runner, in the direction that you are going, punching. Whereas golf being rotational you need it more centered. But we also need our weight left at impact for most shots. Sort of like taking a jab to your extreme left across your body, with the right shoulder down low close to what you are aiming at (the ball) and then extend right through it. The right shoulder being like a launching pad. Some hitters have more pivot than others, some boxers dance, some drag there back foot around the center of the ring like Norton. Either way they can hurt you or compress the ball.
You know VJ Trolio was an amateur boxer, golden gloves if memory serves me right. Luke packs a punch on the course too. He's lights out long from a pretty steady platform. He'd be a back foot dragger I bet if he was a boxer maybe, although he was a runner in school.
I can see that, a boxers weight towards the toes like a runner, in the direction that you are going, punching. Whereas golf being rotational you need it more centered. But we also need our weight left at impact for most shots. Sort of like taking a jab to your extreme left across your body, with the right shoulder down low close to what you are aiming at (the ball) and then extend right through it. The right shoulder being like a launching pad. Some hitters have more pivot than others, some boxers dance, some drag there back foot around the center of the ring like Norton. Either way they can hurt you or compress the ball.
You know VJ Trolio was an amateur boxer, golden gloves if memory serves me right. Luke packs a punch on the course too. He's lights out long from a pretty steady platform. He'd be a back foot dragger I bet if he was a boxer maybe, although he was a runner in school.
OB
I'm a lover, not a fighter! That's why I carry the .44 magnum with a 7 1/2" barrel. The game's called Ted wins; there's no fighting. Yoda was a little freaked out when he rode in my car for the first time and saw my pea shooter.
I'm a lover, not a fighter! That's why I carry the .44 magnum with a 7 1/2" barrel. The game's called Ted wins; there's no fighting. Yoda was a little freaked out when he rode in my car for the first time and saw my pea shooter.
This is the only time Ill think of you and Correy Pavin at the same time.
He had a pea shooter according to Ernie. You acknowledge yours. I think they're a little different though.
Luke,Im pretty relaxed about takeaway and startdown waggle,my 2nd Question for you is
Is the startdown all tricep initiated and at what place in downswing does R/shoulder begin its downward journey
Hope it makes sense..Thanks in advance
Luke,Im pretty relaxed about takeaway and startdown waggle,my 2nd Question for you is
Is the startdown all tricep initiated and at what place in downswing does R/shoulder begin its downward journey
Hope it makes sense..Thanks in advance
No. Don't straighten the Right Arm from the Top.
You want to Deliver the bent Right Arm into Release. Straightening later is better. I Drag the club in Start Down via the Pivot, then I Drive the Club through Impact with the late straightening of the Right Arm.
The immediate straightening of the Right Arm from the Top is weak. You want the Right Arm to be fully straight at Follow Through (2 feet past the ball). If you begin the straightening from the Top and (best case scenario) your Right Arm becomes straight at Follow Through, you have spread the straightening of the Right Arm throughout the entire Downstroke. It equates to a large Release Interval. More often than not, when the straightening starts at Top, the Right Arm becomes fully straight prior to Impact. If anyone tells you to straighten the Right Arm from the Top, hand them their sign .
On the other hand, if you straighten the Right Arm as late as possible, you've compressed the straightening of the Right Arm into a small amount of time. This equates to a small Release Interval. If you have the need for speed, this is the stroke you want.
You want to Deliver the bent Right Arm into Release. Straightening later is better. I Drag the club in Start Down via the Pivot, then I Drive the Club through Impact with the late straightening of the Right Arm.
The immediate straightening of the Right Arm from the Top is weak. You want the Right Arm to be fully straight at Follow Through (2 feet past the ball). If you begin the straightening from the Top and (best case scenario) your Right Arm becomes straight at Follow Through, you have spread the straightening of the Right Arm throughout the entire Downstroke. It equates to a large Release Interval. More often than not, when the straightening starts at Top, the Right Arm becomes fully straight prior to Impact. If anyone tells you to straighten the Right Arm from the Top, hand them their sign .
On the other hand, if you straighten the Right Arm as late as possible, you've compressed the straightening of the Right Arm into a small amount of time. This equates to a small Release Interval. If you have the need for speed, this is the stroke you want.
Are you talking intent in this post, or what the arm actually does?
Are you talking intent in this post, or what the arm actually does?
My quote was "If anyone tells you to straighten the Right Arm from the Top, hand them their sign ." Replacing the words "to straighten" with "to feel like straightening" should keep you from handing out the sign.
Ironically, I was working with a fellow professional, yesterday. He has Accumulator Lag and I was trying to get him to straighten his Right Arm as quickly as he could from the Top. He's left hand dominant, so he has always struggled with the use of his Right Arm.
One of the 'secrets' in getting someone to change quickly is to get the student to do an opposite. The opposite of keeping his Right Arm bent forever is to try to straighten it immediately.
But, he knows the goal, and he knows that we're trying to accelerate the learning process.
You want to Deliver the bent Right Arm into Release. Straightening later is better. I Drag the club in Start Down via the Pivot, then I Drive the Club through Impact with the late straightening of the Right Arm.
The immediate straightening of the Right Arm from the Top is weak. You want the Right Arm to be fully straight at Follow Through (2 feet past the ball). If you begin the straightening from the Top and (best case scenario) your Right Arm becomes straight at Follow Through, you have spread the straightening of the Right Arm throughout the entire Downstroke. It equates to a large Release Interval. More often than not, when the straightening starts at Top, the Right Arm becomes fully straight prior to Impact. If anyone tells you to straighten the Right Arm from the Top, hand them their sign .
On the other hand, if you straighten the Right Arm as late as possible, you've compressed the straightening of the Right Arm into a small amount of time. This equates to a small Release Interval. If you have the need for speed, this is the stroke you want.
Luke
Nice, drag then drive.
Never thought about too much right elbow bend at impact. Very interesting point . I guess not too many people suffer from this condiition compared to the opposite , not enough right arm extension left for the ball. Most often a right shoulder left behind at top problem.
Brownman.
4,1,2,3. Right shoulder down is start down, need to have some pivot axis first. Luke showed me the start down waggle to learn this in my lesson with him and Yoda last year.
Like you with your weight already target wards, sneaking your right shoulder (no 4 I think) close to the guys head and then jabbing (no 1) through the target (his head or aiming point in TGM). In golf the aiming point is not the green but down, down and out in the dirt, somewhere around low point.
Maximum force would have the right shoulder and the jab going through the ball. This is 4 barrel maybe however I think, I dunno. Probably not a place to start but a place to experiment with once you have it all working really well. I loved your post about the right shoulder in boxing, "either to it or right through it". A jab vs a punch. Both pack a blow.
Sorry if this is half baked Luke but this is where Im at anyways. Please advise.
Never thought about too much right elbow bend at impact. Very interesting point . I guess not too many people suffer from this condiition compared to the opposite , not enough right arm extension left for the ball. Most often a right shoulder left behind at top problem.
OB
He's been a pro for a long time. So, it's been 40 years since he was over-the-top with throwaway.
Because he's shorter and played with ill-fit clubs for years, he learned to do two things: 1. Drop the club under plane 2. Keep the clubface from closing. Both were to keep the ball from hooking.
Now, with irons that are 6 degrees flat (perfectly fit for him), his compensations for the old clubs make him hit blocks. When he feels like he's straightening the Right Arm from the Top, coming over-the-top, and snapping the clubface shut, he hits the ball dead straight. Go figure...
You want to Deliver the bent Right Arm into Release. Straightening later is better. I Drag the club in Start Down via the Pivot, then I Drive the Club through Impact with the late straightening of the Right Arm.
The immediate straightening of the Right Arm from the Top is weak. You want the Right Arm to be fully straight at Follow Through (2 feet past the ball). If you begin the straightening from the Top and (best case scenario) your Right Arm becomes straight at Follow Through, you have spread the straightening of the Right Arm throughout the entire Downstroke. It equates to a large Release Interval. More often than not, when the straightening starts at Top, the Right Arm becomes fully straight prior to Impact. If anyone tells you to straighten the Right Arm from the Top, hand them their sign .
On the other hand, if you straighten the Right Arm as late as possible, you've compressed the straightening of the Right Arm into a small amount of time. This equates to a small Release Interval. If you have the need for speed, this is the stroke you want.
Luke,I have no questions this time,as a result of your last question re-startdown I believe I have found something that is vital to my quest to become confident using Hitters pattern,and solid.
Imagine for a moment that you are standing beside a brick wall with your left side against the wall,widen your stance to driver width,Now ,imagine swinging a sledge hammer from just above shoulder height and hitting it at the bottom row of bricks,here,s the thing,in order to deliver that blow there is a natural weight transfer from R/foot to L/foot ,this in itself isnt what I found,I found a core or natural centering of my axis if you like,Im not sure how to explain it,but it has assisted me enormously in being able to deliver the hitting action as you have described ala shoulder then straightening of the R/forearm.
This is most likely a bizzare way to explain what my body is feeling ,but its the only way I can describe the FEELING. To day I practiced starting down with the R/shoulder and was more consistant than I have been for quite a while. (just 2 shanks out of 100 balls lol)
Yoda was a little freaked out when he rode in my car for the first time and saw my pea shooter. 
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