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Old 01-04-2010, 03:37 PM
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Double cocking of right wrist
Was fortunate enough to take a couple of lessons from Mr. Tom Tomasello in Myrtle Beach (Dear Track) about 20 years ago. He indicated to me I was double cocking my right wrist. I was cocking it back and up, instead of just back. From what I can recall he indicated it was causing me to hit a pull. Can anyone explain why this would be? Of maybe someone has another opinion!
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Old 01-04-2010, 05:43 PM
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Here is a GSED on Youtube talking about that very thing.

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Old 01-04-2010, 06:27 PM
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Sorry, but that video does not belong on this website. In my opinion, the sole purpose of that video is to discredit the work of YODA and Brian Gay by another teacher trying to compete with LBG.

True practitioners of The Golfing Machine understand the use of different components and different alignments per the students preferences. That is one of THE MAJOR TENANTS of Mr. Kelley's work.

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If you don't like a given Component Variation, recommended or otherwise, then Homer Kelley would be the first to tell you to avoid it and use something else. The reasons for 'not liking' something ranges from physical inability to execute to psychological. There are ten trillion Strokes in TGM, roughly half Hitting and half Swinging. Use the one(s) you like. Again quoting Homer, "Do whatever you like. Have fun! Enjoy the game!" THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
The Magic Of The Right Forearm was a HUGE part of Homer Kelley's ideals:

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"If I were starting to play golf, this is what I would concentrate on. It's what it all boils down to. It's even simpler than The Triad."

• At Fix, establish your Flat, Level and Vertical Left Wrist and your On Plane Right Forearm Angle of Approach (7-3).

• At Start Up, take your Hands Up, Back, and In on the Plane of your Right Forearm.

• Through Impact, return to the Fix Hand Location and the established Right Forearm Angle of Approach.
I apologize for my rant. Obviously, that video was done by an EXCELLENT teacher, I just don't care for folks whose marketing is based upon putting down the work of others, and I feel the need to stand up for what I believe in.

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Old 01-04-2010, 06:38 PM
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Mr. Landrum,

Sorry for the quick thread jack. Homer Kelley tells us in Chapter 6 that the left wrist cocks, while the right wrist bends. The right wrist should never cock, it should always be level. The section on Flying Wedges includes some excellent references for study.

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6-B-3-0-1 THE FLYING WEDGES
The Clubhead may appear to move in a an arc around and outside the Hands when related to the Left Arm – the very basic Left Arm Flying Wedge. But when related to the Right Forearm, it appears to move “On Plane” with the Right Forearm, at its normal rigid angle (Bent Right Wrist) – the Right Forearm Flying Wedge. So – except in Sections 1 and 3 (Chapter the entire Left Arm, the Clubshaft and the back of the Left Hand are ALWAYS positioned against the same flat plane – the Right Forearm and the Clubshaft are, in like manner, positioned on the plane of the Right Wrist Bend AT RIGHT ANGLES TO THE LEFT ARM PLANE. That is the precision assembly and alignment of the Power Package structure and is mandatory during the entire motion. Hitting or Swinging. Study 4-D-1 regarding “Grip” and “Flat Left Wrist”. Also see 7-3. Then, ideally, the Left Wrist is always Flat and the Right Wrist is always Level (4-A-1, 4-B-1).
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Old 01-04-2010, 07:31 PM
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Kevin,

Thanks for standing up for Lynn's website.

I can understand why links to other instuctors are posted here. I've seen several pop up in the last couple of weeks. In a rush for answers or excitement about a new find, people sometimes forget this website is real property. Not picking on you specifically gmbtempe.

Its akin to walking into Lynns house and showing a video of another instructor to an audience in the living room without permission.

Please folks, if you have a question or an answer search this site first before posting an off site link.

Then again, you can always' reciprocate by posting one of Lynn's youtube videos on other instructors sites. I'm sure they'll appreciate it as much as we do.
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Old 01-04-2010, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RLLANDRUM View Post
He indicated to me I was double cocking my right wrist. I was cocking it back and up, instead of just back. From what I can recall he indicated it was causing me to hit a pull. Can anyone explain why this would be?

I'll take a guess at the Double Cock, pull relationship.

If you take your bent and cocked left wrist from Top down to Impact and maintain the same degree of bend (you can undo the wrist cock of course) the clubface will be pointed to the left. Given that the ball starts off approximately square to the face angle at separation a pull shot will result.

Just a guess though there could well have been other factors.

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Old 01-04-2010, 10:44 PM
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Kevin,

Thanks for standing up for Lynn's website.

I can understand why links to other instuctors are posted here. I've seen several pop up in the last couple of weeks. In a rush for answers or excitement about a new find, people sometimes forget this website is real property. Not picking on you specifically gmbtempe.

Its akin to walking into Lynns house and showing a video of another instructor to an audience in the living room without permission.

Please folks, if you have a question or an answer search this site first before posting an off site link.

Then again, you can always' reciprocate by posting one of Lynn's youtube videos on other instructors sites. I'm sure they'll appreciate it as much as we do.
Look, I am sorry, from now on no posts wtih links from me, no confusion that way. I found this site because someone discussed TGM and linked one of Lynn's videos.

I guess I just get caught up in seeing things around the net related to a subject and relay the information, given this came from someone with TGM certification I did not realize, nor have the understanding to define a true practitioner, or that the video was an attempt to do anything like that.
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This is a bit of a thread hijack, so if y'all don't mind, I'll clean up the posts and try to get this back on track.

When posting a link to another instructors teaching, how do you know what is appropriate or not?

The easy answer is any Instructor that Lynn associates with either through joint Academies or is on the Pro Contributors list is fair game. There are also a number of Instructors that Lynn appreciates and has referenced in his posts. He enjoys videos and photos of those guys as well.

The rest of the TGM community and outside instructors are considered "friendly competition". If in doubt, just PM Lynn or any of the Admins.
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RLLANDRUM View Post
Was fortunate enough to take a couple of lessons from Mr. Tom Tomasello in Myrtle Beach (Dear Track) about 20 years ago. He indicated to me I was double cocking my right wrist. I was cocking it back and up, instead of just back. From what I can recall he indicated it was causing me to hit a pull. Can anyone explain why this would be? Of maybe someone has another opinion!
Double cocking moves the right forearm flying wedge off plane. I tend to hit pulls when I double cock.
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