The responsibility for being informed/aware begins and ends with the golfer...no question about that...but two things still bother me...where was his caddie to inform him of the situation?...where else is the gallery allowed to stand in a "bunker" with a player?
The responsibility for being informed/aware begins and ends with the golfer...no question about that...but two things still bother me...where was his caddie to inform him of the situation?...where else is the gallery allowed to stand in a "bunker" with a player?
HG,
This was discussed last night by Pete Dye on the Breed show. There are bunkers EVERYWHERE off the fairways. If they didn't allow spectators to walk through the bunkers, they wouldn't have been able to allow spectators on the grounds. Just a very unique golf course.
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I've only caught a bit of the details on this, but had a question for those that watched it.
Was there a rake in the 'bunker'?
Is there any official or local rule about having rakes available in an area deemed a 'bunker' vs a waste area?
Seems to me the standard is that having a rake signals bunker, not having one signals waste area.
(especially when the crowd is allowed to walk in/on the area, which as far as I know, spectators aren't usually allowed to walk in any areas considered bunkers).
Regardless, a sad outcome for Dustin, one that I'm sure he and his caddy won't make again.
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I've only caught a bit of the details on this, but had a question for those that watched it.
Was there a rake in the 'bunker'?
Is there any official or local rule about having rakes available in an area deemed a 'bunker' vs a waste area?
Seems to me the standard is that having a rake signals bunker, not having one signals waste area.
(especially when the crowd is allowed to walk in/on the area, which as far as I know, spectators aren't usually allowed to walk in any areas considered bunkers).
Regardless, a sad outcome for Dustin, one that I'm sure he and his caddy won't make again.
Ed,
Does the this rule, given to every competitor change your view on what they considered a bunker for the week?
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Bunkers: All areas of the course that were designed and built as sand bunkers will be played as bunkers (hazards), whether or not they have been raked. This will mean that many bunkers positioned outside of the ropes, as well as some areas of bunkers inside the ropes, close to the rope line, will likely include numerous footprints, heel prints and tire tracks during the play of the Championship. Such irregularities of surface are a part of the game and no free relief will be available from these conditions.
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I guess the question is, how can a player know if an area was designed as a bunker, or as a waste area, if the gallery is allowed to walk there, and there are no rakes?
Unless it was also clear that there were no areas considered waste areas on the course? or that any area with sand was to be considered a bunker?
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I guess the question is, how can a player know if an area was designed as a bunker, or as a waste area, if the gallery is allowed to walk there, and there are no rakes?
Unless it was also clear that there were no areas considered waste areas on the course? or that any area with sand was to be considered a bunker?
Not only allowed to walk in the bunkers but also allowed to stand in them while a player is hitting. I imagine it would've been hard to identify that as a bunker even without spectators covering most of it.
That local rule reads to me as if they are primarily addressing the issue of relief, not what is and isn't a bunker. A sandy area caused by spectator traffic would not fall under the definition of a bunker in that local rule, as it would not have been a designed hazard.
All the players were warned beforehand that if they were in something sandy, it would probably be a hazard. And it wasn't excactly written with fine print either.
...If they didn't allow spectators to walk through the bunkers, they wouldn't have been able to allow spectators on the grounds...
Kevin
So the course is not spectator-friendly...sounds like the PGA compromised on its selection...if players have to share bunkers with spectators. However you slice it...the PGA looks like bad guys on this one...and the fans missed out on a 3-way playoff...and Dustin missed out on redemption...fortunately he is young enough to get over it
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