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Old 12-10-2012, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
I think that the Club needs to stay On Plane during the impact interval.
I always enjoy reading your posts, Daryl. They make me think.

Hogan lowered his head towards and through impact. Luke Donald raises his head through impact. I'm thinking that the guy who dips his head is pushing more and the other is pulling more.... and that the guy who is pulling more will get both ends of the club on the same plane sooner. Eventually even Hogan was pulling 100% but that was (I think) way after impact.
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:36 PM
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I always enjoy reading your posts, Daryl. They make me think.

Hogan lowered his head towards and through impact. Luke Donald raises his head through impact. I'm thinking that the guy who dips his head is pushing more and the other is pulling more.... and that the guy who is pulling more will get both ends of the club on the same plane sooner. Eventually even Hogan was pulling 100% but that was (I think) way after impact.
A little thinking will show that the only part of the club that can be on plane in the Impact Interval is the Sweetspot, while the shaft is below the plane.

Your examples are the opposite of what you think. Hogan is pulling from release all the way to his anatomical limit at the finish, while Donald is throwing the arms/club through Impact with his Right Shoulder.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:37 PM
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A little thinking will show that the only part of the club that can be on plane in the Impact Interval is the Sweetspot, while the shaft is below the plane.

Your examples are the opposite of what you think. Hogan is pulling from release all the way to his anatomical limit at the finish, while Donald is throwing the arms/club through Impact with his Right Shoulder.
It depends how you define THE plane. I see most guys planing the Right Forearm and Shaft at Impact. Well , Homer did allow for a clubhead or sweetspot only deal too, but ... ah crap. Geometry in words sucks the big one.

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Old 12-11-2012, 02:37 PM
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It depends how you define THE plane. I see most guys planing the Right Forearm and Shaft at Impact.
The Plane is the Sweetspot Plane, around which all TGM is based!

Then the guys you are watching are shanking it, which is exactly what anybody will do if they plane the shaft at Impact.

You must plane the Sweetspot.
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe View Post
The Plane is the Sweetspot Plane, around which all TGM is based!

Then the guys you are watching are shanking it, which is exactly what anybody will do if they plane the shaft at Impact.

You must plane the Sweetspot.
define sweet spot plane AND how you monitor it- WITH PRECISION

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Old 12-11-2012, 03:45 PM
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define sweet spot plane AND how you monitor it- WITH PRECISION

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It's the plane on which the path of the sweetspot moves and you learn to monitor it precisely by practicing driving PP#3 at the required Aiming Point for your Swing with the PIVOT.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:01 PM
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It's the plane on which the path of the sweetspot moves and you learn to monitor it precisely by practicing driving PP#3 at the required Aiming Point for your Swing with the PIVOT.
Pardon my French; HORSEFEATHERS; I can blindfold U and put a club in your grip and you can't locate the "sweetspot" or "sweetspotplane" without grounding the club or loosening your grip. Never by swinging on any flat plane. Period.

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Old 12-11-2012, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe View Post
The Plane is the Sweetspot Plane, around which all TGM is based!

Then the guys you are watching are shanking it, which is exactly what anybody will do if they plane the shaft at Impact.

You must plane the Sweetspot.
Yes agreed. You are more correct on this point.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:29 PM
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Can't we just say "shaft" and everyone agree that we're talking about the Long Cntr of grav of the Club. Unless we're talking about getting our shafts re-gripped.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe View Post
A little thinking will show that the only part of the club that can be on plane in the Impact Interval is the Sweetspot, while the shaft is below the plane.
That's because you're that last person on Earth that thinks the Plane starts at the Clubhead Cog and runs through your Left Shoulder.
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