Right forearm takeaway

[Mathew]

Teach,

Learn to use your Right Forearm Flying Wedge on the HORIZONTAL PLANE (like baseball) . . . This should help from the archives:

keeping your On Plane Right Arm Flying Wedge Intact and on a Horizontal Plane.

Shift your Body into its Impact Fix Alignments.

Keeping your Right Forearm Flying Wedge intact -- that means Right Wrist Bent and dowel parallel to the floor (or ground) -- move the Club into an On Horizontal Plane Backstroke by Bending your Right Elbow.

From there, move the Club into an On Horizontal Plane Downstroke STRAIGHTENING YOUR RIGHT ARM WHILE KEEPING YOUR WRIST BENT. Do this over and over and over and over and over.

Look, Look LOOK to make sure there is ABSOLUTELY NO FLATTENING OF THE RIGHT WRIST!!! IT MUST REMAIN IN ITS BENT AND LEVEL CONDITION.

Then drop your Right Forearm Flying Wedge onto the Inclined Plane and REPEAT THE EXACT SAME MOTION. Do this over and over and over and over and over. Bend the Right Elbow. Straighten the Right Elbow. Keeping the Right Wrist Bent.

Alternate back and forth between Horizontal Plane practice and Inclined Plane Practice. Listen to the dowel Swish as you Straighten the Right Elbow. Do this every day until further notice.

The key alignment that is overlooked is LEVEL. Everybody can get the Bent part wrt/ the Right Forearm Flying Wedge. But if your Right Wrist ain't LEVEL . . . you ain't got no wedge!!! Never Never Never COCK your Right Wrist. The Right Wrist DOES NOT take the club UP . . . keep your head betwixt your feets . . . keep your Right Wrist LEVEL and BENT . . . take the club UP Plane with your Right Forearm by BENDING your elbow.

Unfortunately the PIC are NO LONGER THERE!!!

Trig . . . Can we fix the Magic of the Right Forearm Primer pics? They are TOO GOOD to not be out here SOMEWHERE . . .

I have a bone to pick with this post because what your actually saying with this idea of a constant degree of wristbend is impossible with anything other than shots preformed with angled hinging with no usage of the acc. no 2 or 3 (basic motion). I completely disagree with your interpretation of the right flying wedge.

I do realise that short shots is what is being addressed but have seen you say this before many times where this is not applicable.

The myth of constant degree of wristbend - Lets just take the swinging procedure for these examples ok - The right hand is turned towards the inclined plane. Now a constant degree of wristbend is impossible because the right arm is bending.

This picture I created a while back will help illustrate this...



The myth of the level right wrist. How the right flying wedge really works is that when the right hand turns towards the plane on the backstroke - what was wristbend becomes wristcock and the right forearm is aligned to making its motion directly opposed to the inclined plane with a direct relationship with the clubhead. If you turn the right hand and maintain a level right wrist - you have infact destroyed the right flying wedge... infact what your saying is actually a bit silly.

What your saying is that you think the forearm would point along this line...



You have still have alot to learn.....

[Jeff]

Mathew

I cannot understand your contrary opinion. It seems to contradict basic TGM teaching as expressed by 12 piece bucket. Are you really claiming that the right wrist should upcock during the backswing?

Jeff.

[12 piece bucket]

I have a bone to pick with this post because what your actually saying with this idea of a constant degree of wristbend is impossible with anything other than shots preformed with angled hinging with no usage of the acc. no 2 or 3 (basic motion). I completely disagree with your interpretation of the right flying wedge.

I do realise that short shots is what is being addressed but have seen you say this before many times where this is not applicable.

The myth of constant degree of wristbend - Lets just take the swinging procedure for these examples ok - The right hand is turned towards the inclined plane. Now a constant degree of wristbend is impossible because the right arm is bending.

This picture I created a while back will help illustrate this...



The myth of the level right wrist. How the right flying wedge really works is that when the right hand turns towards the plane on the backstroke - what was wristbend becomes wristcock and the right forearm is aligned to making its motion directly opposed to the inclined plane with a direct relationship with the clubhead. If you turn the right hand and maintain a level right wrist - you have infact destroyed the right flying wedge... infact what your saying is actually a bit silly.

What your saying is that you think the forearm would point along this line...



You have still have alot to learn.....

When is the right forearm on plane? Is it on plane with all the plane angles?

[Mathew]

When is the right forearm on plane? Is it on plane with all the plane angles?

Ideally the right forearm will be on the inclined plane at impact.....

Ideally the right forearm will be directly opposed (vertical to) another plane hitting/swinging per 7-3....

[Bagger Lance]

Ideally the right forearm will be on the inclined plane at impact.....

Ideally the right forearm will be directly opposed (vertical to) another plane hitting/swinging per 7-3....

Is it safe to say based on your model, that a "level" right wrist is mandatory in order to keep the right forearm wedge intact, but the right wrist bend is variable based on grip type, procedure, etc. Don't confuse right wrist cock with right elbow bend/cock?

[joe curtis]

Is it safe to say based on your model, that a "level" right wrist is mandatory in order to keep the right forearm wedge intact, but the right wrist bend is variable based on grip type, procedure, etc. Don't confuse right wrist cock with right elbow bend/cock?

bagger, were you in slidell with the group? if so, what did the three d show on right wrist cock?

[Bagger Lance]

bagger, were you in slidell with the group? if so, what did the three d show on right wrist cock?

Hi Joe - Sorry no, I wasn't.

My sense is that a level right wrist is something we "intend" to keep aligned, but if the clubhead is thrown to the end, it would take a lot of forearm strength to keep the right wrist from cocking. I don't have the eyes to see in Mathews 3D model how the right wrist is cocking assuming the right elbow is in the correct position for the swinger loading the sweetspot.

Likewise, a powerful pivot in the downstroke would increase wristcock and potentially effect the right wrist alignment but in this case, an onplane clubhead/shaft would temper a "wild" right wrist into the release interval.

I'm more concerned about the correct amount of right wrist bend.
I'll be the first to admit I have a lot to learn.

[Mathew]

OK ... lets see if this makes it a lil easier to understand...

[Mathew]

Is it safe to say based on your model, that a "level" right wrist is mandatory in order to keep the right forearm wedge intact, but the right wrist bend is variable based on grip type, procedure, etc. Don't confuse right wrist cock with right elbow bend/cock?

No what I am saying is that both the right wrist bend and the right wristcock actually changes also... however the right flying wedge remains constant with the wrist conditions dynamically changing whilst the right forearm moves vertically to the plane which it is opposing.

What Bucket was saying in his post is actually impossible - its not 'my model'!

I do not confuse anything - people that understand my post will understand why what Bucket said is impossible....

[gmoney_69]

No what I am saying is that both the right wrist bend and the right wristcock actually changes also... however the right flying wedge remains constant with the wrist conditions dynamically changing whilst the right forearm moves vertically to the plane which it is opposing.

In a single action grip, such as 10-2-B, once the wedges have been established the right wrist bend does not change, that's why it's single action. In a double, triple or quadruple it will change. Those are the four actions of the grip: horizontal and perpendicular of each hand.

If the right wrist cocks, the right forearm flying wedge, as defined by Homer Kelley, will be destroyed. The right wedge is an inline condition of clubshaft, right wrist and forearm. The key to keeping them inline is the level right wrist.

What Bucket was saying in his post is actually impossible - its not 'my model'!

I do not confuse anything - people that understand my post will understand why what Bucket said is impossible....

What Bucket said is not impossible, it is the ideal per 6-B-3-0-1 and 7-3.