Right forearm takeaway

[Jeff]

Mathew

I cannot understand your contrary opinion. It seems to contradict basic TGM teaching as expressed by 12 piece bucket. Are you really claiming that the right wrist should upcock during the backswing?

Jeff.

[rwh]

Did you not mean "the Right Arm bends gradually as the Left arm goes from Address to the Top of the Backstroke"

You are correct, plgolfer! Sorry for any confusion.

[phimaynard]

Just ambling through and stumbled on this...are these pictures still out there somewhere?

Hi Okie
I still have the post and the pictures http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/i...ons/icon12.gif. Do you want me to send a private message ?
Phil

[12 piece bucket]

I have a bone to pick with this post because what your actually saying with this idea of a constant degree of wristbend is impossible with anything other than shots preformed with angled hinging with no usage of the acc. no 2 or 3 (basic motion). I completely disagree with your interpretation of the right flying wedge.

I do realise that short shots is what is being addressed but have seen you say this before many times where this is not applicable.

The myth of constant degree of wristbend - Lets just take the swinging procedure for these examples ok - The right hand is turned towards the inclined plane. Now a constant degree of wristbend is impossible because the right arm is bending.

This picture I created a while back will help illustrate this...



The myth of the level right wrist. How the right flying wedge really works is that when the right hand turns towards the plane on the backstroke - what was wristbend becomes wristcock and the right forearm is aligned to making its motion directly opposed to the inclined plane with a direct relationship with the clubhead. If you turn the right hand and maintain a level right wrist - you have infact destroyed the right flying wedge... infact what your saying is actually a bit silly.

What your saying is that you think the forearm would point along this line...



You have still have alot to learn.....

When is the right forearm on plane? Is it on plane with all the plane angles?

[neil]

I have a bone to pick with this post because what your actually saying with this idea of a constant degree of wristbend is impossible with anything other than shots preformed with angled hinging with no usage of the acc. no 2 or 3 (basic motion). I completely disagree with your interpretation of the right flying wedge.

I do realise that short shots is what is being addressed but have seen you say this before many times where this is not applicable.

The myth of constant degree of wristbend - Lets just take the swinging procedure for these examples ok - The right hand is turned towards the inclined plane. Now a constant degree of wristbend is impossible because the right arm is bending.

This picture I created a while back will help illustrate this...



The myth of the level right wrist. How the right flying wedge really works is that when the right hand turns towards the plane on the backstroke - what was wristbend becomes wristcock and the right forearm is aligned to making its motion directly opposed to the inclined plane with a direct relationship with the clubhead. If you turn the right hand and maintain a level right wrist - you have infact destroyed the right flying wedge... infact what your saying is actually a bit silly.

What your saying is that you think the forearm would point along this line...



You have still have alot to learn.....

I really don't get any of this--in relation to my understanding [or not] of TGM

[Mathew]

When is the right forearm on plane? Is it on plane with all the plane angles?

Ideally the right forearm will be on the inclined plane at impact.....

Ideally the right forearm will be directly opposed (vertical to) another plane hitting/swinging per 7-3....

[Bagger Lance]

Ideally the right forearm will be on the inclined plane at impact.....

Ideally the right forearm will be directly opposed (vertical to) another plane hitting/swinging per 7-3....

Is it safe to say based on your model, that a "level" right wrist is mandatory in order to keep the right forearm wedge intact, but the right wrist bend is variable based on grip type, procedure, etc. Don't confuse right wrist cock with right elbow bend/cock?

[joe curtis]

Is it safe to say based on your model, that a "level" right wrist is mandatory in order to keep the right forearm wedge intact, but the right wrist bend is variable based on grip type, procedure, etc. Don't confuse right wrist cock with right elbow bend/cock?

bagger, were you in slidell with the group? if so, what did the three d show on right wrist cock?

[Mathew]

Is it safe to say based on your model, that a "level" right wrist is mandatory in order to keep the right forearm wedge intact, but the right wrist bend is variable based on grip type, procedure, etc. Don't confuse right wrist cock with right elbow bend/cock?

No what I am saying is that both the right wrist bend and the right wristcock actually changes also... however the right flying wedge remains constant with the wrist conditions dynamically changing whilst the right forearm moves vertically to the plane which it is opposing.

What Bucket was saying in his post is actually impossible - its not 'my model'!

I do not confuse anything - people that understand my post will understand why what Bucket said is impossible....

[gmoney_69]

No what I am saying is that both the right wrist bend and the right wristcock actually changes also... however the right flying wedge remains constant with the wrist conditions dynamically changing whilst the right forearm moves vertically to the plane which it is opposing.

In a single action grip, such as 10-2-B, once the wedges have been established the right wrist bend does not change, that's why it's single action. In a double, triple or quadruple it will change. Those are the four actions of the grip: horizontal and perpendicular of each hand.

If the right wrist cocks, the right forearm flying wedge, as defined by Homer Kelley, will be destroyed. The right wedge is an inline condition of clubshaft, right wrist and forearm. The key to keeping them inline is the level right wrist.

What Bucket was saying in his post is actually impossible - its not 'my model'!

I do not confuse anything - people that understand my post will understand why what Bucket said is impossible....

What Bucket said is not impossible, it is the ideal per 6-B-3-0-1 and 7-3.