Champions (Ben Hogan and Byron Nelson) draggin' clubheads (back and through) or . . .
Yoda draggin' a pit bull.
The alignments are identical.
Thanks, Ben!
And . . .
Pluto!
Thanks guys . Very interesting.
"So Yoda are you telling me that you cant just imitate Ben Hogan's positions? That they were a product of something else? And what is that something else anyways?"
I have the book, but can't read it (in the right way). If you are getting upset with me - let me know. And regarding understanding - there can be total understanding or no understanding at all -- that'd be Zero Understanding.
Naw man . . . not upset . . . it's the internet . . . but you can't equate dragging a dog around to a chip shot . . . you get that much pivot going and you're partners would have to wear athletic supporters to join you just to play putt putt.
Naw man . . . not upset . . . it's the internet . . . but you can't equate dragging a dog around to a chip shot . . . you get that much pivot going and you're partners would have to wear athletic supporters to join you just to play putt putt.
I was talking about the part in the video before the dog dragging. Anyway Yoda has cleared up that misunderstanding. So life goes on.
There is a misunderstanding here, and it is due solely to terminology.
This was a personal video shot several years ago for a specific purpose. Namely, to offer a solution to an injured player (Brian Watts). It was never intended to be posted here. It is here only because of Pluto!
I made no reference to TGM. In fact, the movements shown have their origin in Bob MacDonald (Golf / 1927), not TGM. Within the context of my video message to my player, I stand by my statement in the video that the combined pivot and arm swing constitute the 'basic motion' of the stroke -- its "fundamental nature" -- knowing full well that a strict TGM definition would label the degree of motion as Second Stage (Acquired) or even Third Stage (Total).
Your confusion does make an important point:
What we call things matters.
If we can't agree on what our words mean, what chance do we have communicate?
Originally Posted by airair
Ok - glad that's cleared up, so my head doesn't hurt so much.
But - can these movements be used in any way - they gave a good feeling that maybe could be used in the swing in a good way - in the TGM acquired or total swing?
I still am wondering - to what use do we that are not injured have from this video - apart from the drag loading part? Are these motions important in the total swing? What about the lifting of the heels? Or is this just for an injured with less mobility? As former stated - it gave a good feeling - well worth keeping as something to build on? Or not.
Could you please post the link you are referencing? I'm confused . . .
In your post 22 you are talking about the dog draging aspect, while I was talking about the 80% of the video before that last part. But never mind. It's enough that I'm confused.
I still am wondering - to what use do we that are not injured have from this video - apart from the drag loading part? Are these motions important in the total swing? What about the lifting of the heels? Or is this just for an injured with less mobility? As former stated - it gave a good feeling - well worth keeping as something to build on? Or not.
Well, now that part has disappeared. Too bad, I enjoyed it (and still remember what I saw). Shall I just forget it - or can I still make use of it (but only if you answer. No answer then has to mean: forget it).
Well, now that part has disappeared. Too bad, I enjoyed it (and still remember what I saw). Shall I just forget it - or can I still make use of it (but only if you answer. No answer then has to mean: forget it).
But, please, no threadjacking discussion here. Search for MacDonald Exercises, and I'm sure you'll find a thread or three for comment and questions. Alternatively, start a new one if those in the archives do not serve the purpose. Here's a thread to get you started: http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread4435.html.
But, please, no threadjacking discussion here. Search for MacDonald Exercises, and I'm sure you'll find a thread or three for comment and questions. Alternatively, start a new one if those in the archives do not serve the purpose. Here's a thread to get you started: http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread4435.html.
Thank you.
I'm not sure what a threadjacker is. It's not good I guess. Maybe I unintensionally am a threadjacker. I am unintensionally a hacker as well.
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