thoughts....decided on a pattern

[O.B.Left]

Whip can you hit? If you can do you see a straight blur ? I luv ya man don't want to be an ass but when I hit I see an arc

[whip]

Then u ain't hitting that's what I'm saying u take that angle of approach and u make darn sure theat clubbed and face goes straight not curved up and down that line the blur is straight for my hit as it should not curve why would it it is going off plane in the follow through a straight line thrust where is the arc?

[O.B.Left]

Oh Im hitting .. fer sure . Active right arm is active right arm. Hitting is not defined by the club head blur.

Thrust by definition is always straight line . A swinger is said to have non active, passive right arm straight line thrust. (Which incidentally might be THE missing ingredient or insight that goofing with hitting can lend to a swingers normal procedure). Straight line thrust does not produce a straight line club head blur directly .. The club head does not in fact move in a truly straight line of flight although under one specific condition it may appear to be doing so. "Appear" .

If you thrust the Primary Lever which is centred at the left shoulder the club head will describe a circular orbit . Sorta like a patio door closer ... the cylinder pistons , extends and contracts in a straight line but the outside edge of the door describes a circle on the ground given that its centred at the hinges. Imagine the mechanical changes necessary to get the doors edge to travel in a straight line? How would a golfer accomplish the same? Answer : He doesn't! Not at full speed anyways although it is possible when putting. Straight back , straight through putting with the club head staying at a particular height off the ground. Steering.


This one specific point of view where a circular orbit can appear to be a straight line to the golfers eye lends itself to hitting far better than it does to swinging . Almost exclusively to hitting , or more specifically a highly manipulated , non shaft plane compliant form of hitting. Using any other club head plane or the adoption of a clubs haft plane does not forgo hitting but does forgo the illusion of a straight line club head blur.

Here's a photo that I stumbled upon .... .just a coincidence but it does a nice job of describing the geometry necessary for seeing a straight line when viewing a circle. This golfer is seeing a straight line , as does the camera . A straight line wheel track is made by a circular wheel. When looking at the circumference of the circle or the wheel rim, to continue with Homers analogy , you see the curved nature of the wheels rim which appears more or less circular in accordance with the relationship between the plane the wheel sits and your eye line. If you lowered the explanar in this photo so it laid flat on the ground this golfer would see the max amount of curve possible through the impact area. The other various possible plane angles between these two extremes (although it should be noted that the circle pictured is not truly vertical but "almost vertical " , as Homers said in the audio tapes when describing the angle of approach's club head only plane angle) would produce varying degrees of curvature to the golfers eye.

[MizunoJoe]

Here's a photo that I stumbled upon .... .just a coincidence but it does a nice job of describing the geometry necessary for seeing a straight line when viewing a circle. This golfer is seeing a straight line , as does the camera.

Great photo! In fact, a Swinger could use his right eye and the ball to define his DS plane, steep though it would be.

[whip]

There is no circle for a ht only the right arm straight line uncentered thrust the clubhead moves on a line through the ball out towar right field not swinging on plane hitting on a line. I thought I was hitting after the gseb classes Daniels said I wasn't. Its not hitting if that clubhead does not move in a straight line your not hitting your hitting and swinging

[Etzwane]

2-J-3 does not make it totally clear, but I think it mixes Arc of Approach and Angle of Approach as visual equivalent to on-plane motion with the delivery procedures that gives a cross-line Hit for the Angle of Approach delivery (off plane past low point). The latter is naturally associated (2-J-3) to 10-5-E Closed plane line but 12-1-0 specify 10-5-A Square-Square and would be using the former "Angle of Approach equivalent to on plane motion". These are the two hitting procedures I recall from discussions here.

[O.B.Left]

There is no circle for a ht only the right arm straight line uncentered thrust the clubhead moves on a line through the ball out towar right field not swinging on plane hitting on a line. I thought I was hitting after the gseb classes Daniels said I wasn't. Its not hitting if that clubhead does not move in a straight line your not hitting your hitting and swinging

This is perhaps Homers most confusing offering and as such there are differences of opinion even amongst TGM's greats. I just can't see how you could get the clubhead to move in a straight line path in 3D space at full driver speed. Putting sure it could be done I suppose, not sure why you'd want to do that but driving?

If the club head actually moved along a straight line path this straightness would be apparent from any visual or camera perspective. Do you have photos of this sort of thing? Or are you saying it straight line but only for a bit?

By what mechanism do you forgo the effect on the club head path of the fixed centre and the fixed lever length? Hitters still thrust the primary lever , the left arm and club. Giving you a lever length a centre and I would think, a circular motion.

[MizunoJoe]

I thought I was hitting after the gseb classes Daniels said I wasn't. Its not hitting if that clubhead does not move in a straight line your not hitting your hitting and swinging

I want to see a face-on video of someone moving the clubhead in a straight line from Top to Impact.

[O.B.Left]

I want to see a face-on video of someone moving the clubhead in a straight line from Top to Impact.

M J , I know what you mean but to play the other side of the fence here for a moment ... when you look at actual club head traces, they can get pretty flat ..... not truly flat but pretty flat around impact. Even the Angle of Approach when seen to scale is not very "out to the right" when viewed from the players perspective. Interesting huh?

The drawings of chapter 2 are not to scale and somewhat exaggerate the direction the Angle points, IMO for illustrative and educational purposes . The balls response however is heavily influenced by the most minuscule of degrees of change. As such Homers drawings though not to scale were "keerect" in regards to the implications to ball reaction. He had to draw them "not to scale" .... no one would think they were "impactfull" or relevant otherwise.


That or mine are the blatherings of a mad man, whose been trying to figure out Homer for far too long. Take your pick.

[whip]

The left arm is basically irrelevant for the hitter it's how lee Westwood gets away with a bent left arm and wrist at impact the hit has no center